While NBC’s The Voice is back in production with an air date of October 19, judges Kelly Clarkson and Gwen Stefani have shared their experiences with each other, as both have been divorced with little kids to think about.

Gwen and Kelly both chatted with Extra and Kelly opened up about her divorce from Brandon Blackstock. Earlier this year, they called it quits after seven years of marriage. Kelly commented, “It’s just one day when you’re like, ‘Wow, this has forever changed and it’s not just my heart has changed, there’s other little hearts, too.’”

Kelly and Brandon have two children together, River Rose, 6, and Remington Alexander 4.

Gwen, who found love with Blake Shelton after her public breakup with Gavin Rossdale, shared, “Kelly and I have been talking about this a lot. We’re so lucky to have music as an outlet for everything we all go through… Music is such therapy when you’re a writer.”

Kelly added, “I have a great family and friends that are there for me… It’s a very hard thing to navigate, to be able to be honest and share your story, so maybe you can help someone else, but at the same time protecting these little kids you adore. We have a lot of help as far as therapists or child psychologists ‘cause we want to do it right… Everyone’s sad and it’s okay to be sad.”

Gwen said, “You’re doing a really good job. I think it’s hard to be a public person. Now you add in a family… they didn’t choose it.”